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Kirby Wilbur Summary for 10/13/06



Time: 00:00 - 00:15
Topic: North Korea
Guest: Justin Logan, Cato Institute
Summary: Kirby chats with a winger-welfare member about North Korea's strategy and intentions. Interestingly, the guest admits that Clinton administration diplomacy succeeded in slowing down the regime's progress on nuclear weapons.

Time: 00:15 - 00:30
Topic: Polling on Foley fiasco
Guest: Dana Blanchett, Fox News Opinion Research
Summary: A recent Fox News "poll" shows that 11% of the electorate has been moved to the Democrats by the Foley scandal.

Time: 00:30 - 00:45
Topic: Mysteries of the Bible
Guest: Dr. Robert Hodgson, American Bible Society
Summary: Kirby promotes his guest's book about the mysteries of the bible (with 150 "lavish" illustrations!). zzzzzzzz.....

Time: 00:45 - 01:00
Topic: Stock market performance
Guest: Stuart Varney, Fox News Financial Analyst
Summary: Kirby raves about the first record broken by the Dow after 6 years of the Bush economy, and asks his guest whether this means the market is looking forward to a Democratic takeover of congress.
Classic Quote 1:
KIRBY: There it is, we doubled the Dow in 6 years, 10 years, excuse me, and that's despite two wars, 9/11, the high-tech bust, and yet some out there are still talking about how horrible the economy is.


Time: 01:00 - 02:00
Topic: Quakers and the Homeless
Summary: Kirby narrates a Seattle Times story about a Seattle quaker congregation who have booted a homeless camp off of their property. zzzzzz....

Time: 01:23 - 02:00
Topic: Stock market performance
Summary: The hour actually gets interesting for a few minutes when a very good caller challenges Kirby's willfully ignorant view of the stock market's performance under Bush, with Kirby insisting that broader market indices are meaningless and that he bases his view of robust growth on a single stock: Boeing. You can tell Kirby is totally busted on his dishonesty when he turns defensive and says the caller is calling his listeners stupid.
Classic Quote 1:
CALLER: My only claim is that if you had invested one thousand dollars in an S&P futures market on the day George Bush took office, it would be worth eleven hundred dollars today.
KIRBY: And I will tell you that if you had put that thousand dollars in Boeing stock or any number of other stocks on the day George Bush was inaugurated, it would be worth a lot more money. My Boeing stock has tripled in value.

Classic Quote 2:
CALLER: The average guy in a 401k plan doesn't want to have to track individual stocks, that's why there's 35,000 mutual funds, Kirby.
KIRBY: Uh huh. And are all mutual funds not performing well?
CALLER: Well, if you take the five-year average, like I said, from the day George Bush was inaugurated, you track the S&P 500, and it will be worth a hundred dollars more.
KIRBY: Well, then maybe people should be smarter investing [CALLER], because I've done a hell of a lot better than that and I bet a lot of other people have as well. Thank you sir, it's coming up on 6:29, if you're too stupid to invest your money, call and tell me.


Time: 02:00 - 02:30
Topic: British girl arrested for racism
Summary: Kirby decries a case in the U.K. where a fourteen year old girl was arrested for racism based on her interaction with an immigrant classmate who had poor english skills. zzzzz....

Time: 02:30 - 03:00
Topic: Fox News
Guest: Chris Wallace, Fox News
Summary: Kirby gives his weekly tithe to Fox News in the form of a free promotion of Chris Wallace's talking heads show. zzzzzzz....
Classic Quote 1:
KIRBY: Feingold, Chris, I think is one of those pure liberals, the people I respect because they typically don't squish or wimp on issues, he's pretty predictable, and a lot of other politicians tend to either trim their sails or move to the middle, I don't think Russ Feingold does and I have a lot of respect for him because of that, and I think he'll run as a kind of pure liberal, saying 'look I didn't wimp, I didn't squish on the war, I didn't do this, vote more me and you'll know what you're gonna get.'

Classic Quote 2:
KIRBY: Well I think ultimately it is going to have to be up to [the Iraqis]. We cannot stay there forever, and at some point if the Iraqis don not appear either willing or able to take it over, we just might have to write it off, because ultimately they are going to have to do that.


Time: 03:00 - 04:00
Topic: Baker commission on Iraq
Summary: Kirby discusses former Secretary of State Jim Baker's commission that is tasked with coming up with a plan on Iraq (I guess a plan might be nice as we approach our 4th year of the conflict). The word on the street is that the commission is coming down to two options: dramatically increase our commitment and try to achieve stability, or start a strategic redeployment. Listeners are asked whether they think we should hang in the fight or "cut and run." It's a interesting turning point because it's just been in the last few months that people like Kirby have started to face the reality of Iraq, but their warped lesson is that it's really all just the Iraqis fault for not wanting peace and democracy enough. In one of the most deranged versions of this argument I've seen, Kirby says it was all still worth it since now we can take the democracy option off the table, leaving other unspecified but implicitly darker options to try next.
Classic Quote 1:
KIRBY: Jim Baker I find is an intriguing choice. I'm sure he's a nice guy, but if you look at his history, he was not one of the Reagan-ites who looked forward to taking out the Soviet Union and communism. He was not a friend to Israel when it came to the middle east, in fact he famously said 'F the Jews. They don't vote for us anyway.' Quote: 'F the Jews, they don't vote for us anyway.'

He is as far as other supporters one who believes in stability. And there are a lot of people involved in foreign affairs and foreign policy who believe in stability. But stability in the Soviet Union was mutually assured destruction and the continued enslavement of a billion people in the world. And it was when Reagan came in and said 'F stability! We're going to go out and we're going to change the world and we're going to bring communism down!' And he did!

And now we come to Iraq where we're having difficulty, and of course we are. And I know some people didn't say it would be difficult, and I know the left likes to chant 'Oh, you said it would be easy'. No, no, no, I remember saying specifically the destruction of the Iraqi army would be the easy part, the tough part would be trying to put a democracy, a representative government in place here. And it might not work, but it was worth the risk, it was worth the gamble. If democracy was not going to take root in muslim lands, with muslim people, then we know now we can scratch that option off and focus on what's left on the table.

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